Category: Reuniones

Minutas de reuniones de los Tesos en Wi-Fi

366a Sesión de Tesos en Wi-Fi: WLANPros Wi-Fi Design [Hamina Wireless, AP placement, cabling, and switches]

366a Sesión de Tesos en Wi-Fi: WLANPros Wi-Fi Design [Hamina Wireless, AP placement, cabling, and switches]

The meeting was a session of the WLANPros Wi‑Fi design class, focused on predictive design in Hamina and practical Wi‑Fi considerations. Ferney addressed confusion about the meeting time and shared temporary Hamina licenses with attendees. The group discussed venue costs for a Manchester training and possible alternatives, and alex offered a potential venue in Brazil. Ferney demonstrated Hamina features, including slab-only attenuation, client height, and the use of survey data to inform design. There was extensive discussion on offsets, device variability, and the limitations of predictive vs. measured surveys, with input from Glenn, Martin, Walid Abdelkader, and others. The session covered primary and secondary coverage, AP placement, auto-planning, channel settings, and the impact of obstacles and multi-floor bleed. Ferney emphasized designing for the weakest client device, the importance of redundancy and roaming, and the unreliability of active throughput surveys. The class also touched on real-world examples, such as senior care facilities, warehouses, and stadiums, and compared Hamina, Ekahau, and other tools.

Chat Notes:

00:30:15 simon: if floor 2 is 5m and the rest is 2.5m, will the walls that is set for ceiling height, is it 2.5/5 or according to the respective floor?
00:30:28 Hiten J. Thakkar: If I am not mistaken Kjeiel (must have butchered his name – sorry) has created skills for Hamina to add furniture and other stuff. He had a whole blog about it and is active on WLAN Pro SLACK but verify
00:34:48 alex wirz: Easy peasy. the one issue is hamina don t allow me to rotate, so I created 2, 1 for horizontal other for vertical
01:05:12 Mark: in stadiums, on gameday testing, the signal varies based on holding the phone on your lap sitting down or holding it up near your chest or face.
01:06:34 Ned Neece: Another major issue, if stadium is surveyed empty and not surveyed on game day.
01:09:19 Ned Neece: Looks funny! 🙂
01:10:47 Mark: Show the client the pretty one with some margin for safety
01:13:08 Johan Daniel Aponte Quiñones: That where I get signal from on the neighborhood
01:45:01 Hiten J. Thakkar: Be prepare to butt heads with the contractor will not follow the recommendation of your predictive design and will change the installation points without informing and especially when they install AP next to the Fire Sprinklers. This always happens when a University does a capital project same issues different contractors.
01:45:56 Hiten J. Thakkar: Never do stack, go with honeycomb that way you can take advantage of co-channel sharing
02:05:57 Alain: Wi-Fi Client Testing

365a Sesión de Tesos en Wi-Fi: WLANPros Wi-Fi Design [CWNA]

365a Sesión de Tesos en Wi-Fi: WLANPros Wi-Fi Design [CWNA]

En la sesión 365a de Tesos en Wi-Fi, Ferney presentó una guía completa sobre las certificaciones de CWNP (Certified Wireless Network Professionals), explicando el camino desde la certificación inicial CWNA hasta el nivel experto CWNE. Además, se realizó el esperado sorteo de los vouchers para los exámenes de certificación entre los asistentes recurrentes a las clases. Se anunció que en las siguientes sesiones se reanudará la clase de diseño utilizando la herramienta Sidos, aprovechando las licencias otorgadas por el fabricante. Se seleccionaron 5 ganadores entre los participantes de la lista, se asignó 1 voucher directamente a Danessa por el apoyo a la comunidad.

364a Sesión de Tesos en Wi-Fi: WLANPros Wi-Fi Design [Hamina Wireless, multiple floors]

364a Sesión de Tesos en Wi-Fi: WLANPros Wi-Fi Design [Hamina Wireless, multiple floors]

The session was part of the free Wireless LAN Professionals Wi-Fi Design Class, focusing on using Hamina for Wi-Fi design. Ferney led the class, ensuring all participants had temporary Hamina licenses and demonstrating how to create and scale projects, import floor plans, and automatically detect walls, doors, and windows. Jerry from Hamina joined to answer questions about floor attenuation, ceiling heights, and modeling slabs and raised floors, clarifying how these settings affect the 3D model. The group learned to create multi-floor buildings, align floor plans, define scope zones, and model special elements like holes in floors, short walls (verandas), drop ceilings, and air ducts using attenuation objects. Ferney also showed how to copy objects between floors, adjust wall heights, and visualize the environment in 3D. The session highlighted Hamina’s visual interface and ease of use compared to other tools, with participants sharing their impressions and experiences.

Chat Notes:

00:41:51 Jono Thompson: Can you disable that altering the celing high? so if you accidentally miss type the the AP hight then its going to mess up the design? – does the override fix it and stop it altering it?
00:42:23 Zaur Nedashkovskiy: So it is worth creating a “binding” even if it is a single-floor setting
00:54:05 gurpreet singh: in ekahau reflections are on by default in the AI Pro online
00:59:48 Glenn De Haes: In ekahau you have to set the accuracy to max to get refraction calculation. Mainly helps in hallways/aisles to see how far the signal goes or to see signal around pillars. In AI Planner Online, it is on by default. In Hamina, it is also on by default since it is also cloud. In iBwave or LANPlanner, you can choose the attenuation calculation models but in the end, the result is mostly the same as in Ekahau and Hamina
01:08:18 simon: if an area, say toilet, you specify as out of scope. will Hamina take into account the out of scope area to calculate the wireless coverage for the next room, e.g. meeting room?
01:10:44 Glenn De Haes: out of scope is out of scope so you don’t foresee coverage in that area. Walls around the out of scope area are taken into account for the coverage in the surrounding areas. It is just not showing coverage in that defined area
01:12:02 Zaur Nedashkovskiy: Black – is going to be the floor you are currently on (under project)
01:12:29 simon: Replying to “out of scope is out of scope so you don’t foresee coverage in that area. Walls around the out of scope area are taken into account for the coverage in the surrounding areas. It is just not showing coverage in that defined area”
01:12:56 gurpreet singh: AIPO is also very same visual where you can see the floor plan below

363a Sesión de Tesos en Wi-Fi: WLANPros Wi-Fi Design [Hamina Wireless]

363a Sesión de Tesos en Wi-Fi: WLANPros Wi-Fi Design [Hamina Wireless]

In this session, we transition from foundational RF theory into hands-on predictive Wi-Fi design. Using Hamina Wireless, we walk through step by step how to set up a professional predictive model from scratch, using real-world event designs as examples (such as a recent venue deployment in Toronto, Canada). Key technical topics covered in this session include: The Project Lifecycle & AI Detection: How choosing the correct building environment type (office, warehouse, convention center) optimizes Hamina’s AI model for automatic wall and obstacle recognition, Setting the Scale & Coordinates: We cover how the software establishes a pixels-per-meter grid and local XY coordinates, Auto-Draw & Custom Wall Creation: Utilizing the auto-draw feature for automatic material placement, editing material loss values, and creating custom materials, 3D Attenuation Objects & Custom Furniture, Advanced Architectural Features: Step-by-step guidance on constructing multi-landing staircases using the Sloped Floor tool, setting lower/upper height markers, drawing landings (Raised Floors), and enabling structural steps, Windows & Openings.

Chat Notes:

01:01:36  simon:  how to change one of dry wall to something else in earlier step?
01:09:53  Sebastián Mozó:  it is important to draw the ceiling too? 
01:13:50  Zaur Nedashkovskiy:  Replying to “it is important to d…” Id say only if you hame some exotic ceiling (dropped) that will be below AP. Some times you may have huddle rooms that have ceiling lower than the  rest of the floor and you mount APs outside higher. What I am trying to say – its situational.
01:14:44  Guillermo Parra:  Does Hamina support creating a reusable database of attenuation objects that can be exported and imported between different user accounts? We would like to share standardized attenuation object libraries across our engineering team and with other designers to ensure consistency between projects.
01:21:47  Guillermo Parra:  Can drawing objects be copied and pasted between different Hamina projects? For example, if we have a standardized floor layout or commonly used annotations, can we reuse those objects in another design without recreating them from scratch?
01:25:31  Zaur Nedashkovskiy:  Columns – you can do X (or Cross) instead of circle, or use attentuation square. @Ferney Muñoz  – can you shine some light on drawing columns (when you skip and when you don’t) with a reference to refraction ?
01:28:10  Zaur Nedashkovskiy:  i.e. do you always draw columns ? Or if there are few/scattered – you don’t because of refraction ?
01:28:41  Zaur Nedashkovskiy:  Top right corner – “Compute FRT”
01:30:22  Sebastián Mozó:  Replying to “it is important to d…” I believe that just as walls affect reflections and refraction, the ceiling also contributes, even more so if it is a metal one.
01:34:36  Ned Neece:  Replying to “it is important to d…” In modern office spaces you see a lot of open ceilings with pipes, metal, HVAC etc.  Def affects.
01:39:05  Zaur Nedashkovskiy:  Replying to “Screenshot2026_08_03_093056.jpg” BTW – Dynamic attenuation per frequency is checked on all default materials.

362a Sesión de Tesos en Wi-Fi: WLPC Valencia, Mac y MDM con Cisco, ClearPass y Microsoft AD

362a Sesión de Tesos en Wi-Fi: WLPC Valencia, Mac y MDM con Cisco, ClearPass y Microsoft AD

El equipo discutió un problema técnico donde los dispositivos Apple Mac no pueden completar el proceso de autenticación cuando se conectan a una red Wi-Fi con controladores Cisco que utilizan ClearPass y un servidor de autenticación Microsoft Active Directory. Victor explicó que el proceso de asociación inicial funciona correctamente, pero cuando llega la solicitud de identidad del cliente, el dispositivo Apple no responde correctamente, causando un tiempo de espera infinito. El grupo identificó que el problema probablemente se debe a que los dispositivos Mac no están correctamente registrados en el MDM (Mobile Device Management) de Apple, ya que los dispositivos business requieren un proceso de onboarding específico a través de canales de distribución autorizados. Los participantes compartieron experiencias similares y aconsejaron que se necesita crear un SSID abierto para que los dispositivos puedan descargarse el perfil MDM primero. La conversación también incluyó actualizaciones sobre próximas conferencias WLPC en Valencia (11-13 de septiembre para el boot camp y 14 y 15 para la conferencia). Te puedes registrar en https://thewlpc.com/valencia26. WLPC México (7-11 de noviembre para los boot camps y 12 y 13 para la conferencia principal). La página de registro se abrirá pronto.

Notas del Chat:

https://www.thewlpc.com/valencia26

361a Sesión de Tesos en Wi-Fi: WLANPros Wi-Fi Design [Life Cicle of a Wi-Fi Project]

361a Sesión de Tesos en Wi-Fi: WLANPros Wi-Fi Design [Life Cicle of a Wi-Fi Project]

This was session 361, part of the Wireless LAN Professional Wi-Fi Design Class, where Ferney covered the complete lifecycle of a Wi-Fi project. The session focused extensively on the definition phase, explaining that proper project definition goes far beyond simply installing Wi-Fi everywhere – it requires understanding client requirements, device types and capabilities, cabling infrastructure, budget constraints, vendor selection, power requirements, and physical mounting considerations. Ferney emphasized that Wi-Fi professionals should be involved in all stages of the project lifecycle rather than just being called in for post-deployment surveys when problems arise. The discussion included detailed explanations of design tools like Ekahau, Hamina, and Wavelify, and the importance of pre-deployment validation using “AP on a stick” testing to ensure designs work in real-world conditions. Ferney also clarified the difference between design (predictive simulation) and survey (on-site measurement), and addressed common pitfalls like the “one AP per classroom” approach that often leads to inadequate coverage.

360a Sesión de Tesos en Wi-Fi: WLANPros Wi-Fi Design [The Fallacy of Channel Overlap]

360a Sesión de Tesos en Wi-Fi: WLANPros Wi-Fi Design [The Fallacy of Channel Overlap]

The session focused on the concept of cell overlap in Wi-Fi network design, specifically addressing the fallacy of quantifying cell overlap as a percentage. Ferney explained that the idea of requiring a certain percentage of cell overlap, such as 30%, is not measurable or practical due to the irregular shapes of real-world Wi-Fi coverage areas. He demonstrated using design tools like Ekahau and Hamina to show how secondary coverage, which provides multiple signals for redundancy and roaming, is achieved by adding more access points rather than targeting a specific overlap percentage. The discussion highlighted the need to educate customers and peers to remove such unverifiable requirements from RFPs and contracts. The session also briefly touched on the life cycle of a project, which was postponed for a future discussion.

Chat Notes:

01:22:52 gurpreet singh: https://wlanprofessionals.com/the-fallacy-of-channel-overlap/

359a Sesión de Tesos en Wi-Fi: WLANPros Wi-Fi Design [Wi-Fi Interference]

359a Sesión de Tesos en Wi-Fi: WLANPros Wi-Fi Design [Wi-Fi Interference]

This was session 359 of Ferney’s free Wi-Fi design class, focusing on Wi-Fi interference terminology and concepts. Ferney explained key Wi-Fi terms including Basic Service Set (BSS), Basic Service Set Identifier (BSSID), Service Set Identifier (SSID), and Extended Service Set (ESS), demonstrating how different access points announce the same SSID using different BSSIDs. The session covered various types of Wi-Fi interference such as Co-Channel Interference (CCI), Adjacent Channel Interference, and Overlapping Basic Service Sets (OBSS), along with protection mechanisms like RTS/CTS. Ferney discussed how most Wi-Fi interference comes from other Wi-Fi networks rather than external sources, and showed examples using Wi-Fi Explorer Pro to analyze interference patterns in real networks. The class included participants from around the world including Australia, France, Sweden, Italy, Chile, Canada, and the United States, with Ferney emphasizing that all session recordings would be made available for free to help train Wi-Fi professionals worldwide.

Chat Notes:

01:29:43 simon: the channel utilization is the value of 2 AP assuming they are on the same channel or just the individual ap?

01:33:28 Hando: We need to add the gain of the antenna to the Tx power.

01:40:20 Ned Neece: If it’s an internal antenna AP, the vendor knows the gain.

01:41:47 Hando: Sure, but only the tx power is advertised, not the EIRP.

01:43:21 gurpreet singh: different vendors do it different as well, Per change conducted vs Total conducted Power.

358a Sesión de Tesos en Wi-Fi: WLANPros Wi-Fi Design [Association Process]

358a Sesión de Tesos en Wi-Fi: WLANPros Wi-Fi Design [Association Process]

This was Session 358 of Ferney’s free Wireless LAN Professionals Wi-Fi Design class, focused on the association process in Wi-Fi networks. Ferney explained how devices discover Wi-Fi networks through passive scanning (beacons sent 10 times per second, per radio, per SSID) and active scanning (probe requests sent by clients and probe responses sent by APs), emphasizing that too many networks increase airtime utilization and overhead. The class covered the complete association process from WLAN discovery through open system authentication, association request/response frames, and finally IP address acquisition via DHCP, with Ferney demonstrating real packet captures using Wireshark to show the entire process taking 1.9 seconds. Ferney stressed the importance of keeping the number of SSIDs low to reduce beacon overhead and discussed different authentication methods including PSK and 802.1X, noting that PSK is less secure due to its vulnerability to brute force attacks when passwords are shared among multiple users.

Chat Notes:

Professionals Wi-Fi Design class Form

357a Sesión de Tesos en Wi-Fi: WLANPros Wi-Fi Design [Hamina Wireless]

357a Sesión de Tesos en Wi-Fi: WLANPros Wi-Fi Design [Hamina Wireless]

En esta sesión 357a de Tesos en Wi-Fi estuvimos haciendo un resumen completo para cerrar toda la etapa dedicada al diseño de redes predictivas utilizando la herramienta Hamina Wireless. Repasamos paso a paso desde la importación de planos, el ajuste de escalas (píxeles por metro) y coordenadas XY, hasta la creación de objetos de atenuación personalizados, columnas, pisos elevados y tramos de escaleras en 3D. Además, analizamos un caso real en un centro de convenciones masivo para comparar los mapas de calor del diseño predictivo contra las mediciones de validación tomadas en campo con herramientas como Sidos y Wi-Fi Explorer Pro. Demostramos cómo la discrepancia entre la teoría y la práctica nos obliga a ajustar en sitio las potencias, la inclinación (tilt) y la orientación de los APs. Para rematar, explicamos la creación de reportes interactivos en línea, mostrando cómo se puede compartir un enlace dinámico en 3D directamente con el cliente final para que este navegue el proyecto, revise el inventario de materiales (Bill of Materials) y observe los avances en tiempo real.

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