Category: WLANPros Wi-Fi Design Class

Class of Wireless LAN Professionals Wi-Fi Design

366a Sesión de Tesos en Wi-Fi: WLANPros Wi-Fi Design [Hamina Wireless, AP placement, cabling, and switches]

366a Sesión de Tesos en Wi-Fi: WLANPros Wi-Fi Design [Hamina Wireless, AP placement, cabling, and switches]

The meeting was a session of the WLANPros Wi‑Fi design class, focused on predictive design in Hamina and practical Wi‑Fi considerations. Ferney addressed confusion about the meeting time and shared temporary Hamina licenses with attendees. The group discussed venue costs for a Manchester training and possible alternatives, and alex offered a potential venue in Brazil. Ferney demonstrated Hamina features, including slab-only attenuation, client height, and the use of survey data to inform design. There was extensive discussion on offsets, device variability, and the limitations of predictive vs. measured surveys, with input from Glenn, Martin, Walid Abdelkader, and others. The session covered primary and secondary coverage, AP placement, auto-planning, channel settings, and the impact of obstacles and multi-floor bleed. Ferney emphasized designing for the weakest client device, the importance of redundancy and roaming, and the unreliability of active throughput surveys. The class also touched on real-world examples, such as senior care facilities, warehouses, and stadiums, and compared Hamina, Ekahau, and other tools.

Chat Notes:

00:30:15 simon: if floor 2 is 5m and the rest is 2.5m, will the walls that is set for ceiling height, is it 2.5/5 or according to the respective floor?
00:30:28 Hiten J. Thakkar: If I am not mistaken Kjeiel (must have butchered his name – sorry) has created skills for Hamina to add furniture and other stuff. He had a whole blog about it and is active on WLAN Pro SLACK but verify
00:34:48 alex wirz: Easy peasy. the one issue is hamina don t allow me to rotate, so I created 2, 1 for horizontal other for vertical
01:05:12 Mark: in stadiums, on gameday testing, the signal varies based on holding the phone on your lap sitting down or holding it up near your chest or face.
01:06:34 Ned Neece: Another major issue, if stadium is surveyed empty and not surveyed on game day.
01:09:19 Ned Neece: Looks funny! 🙂
01:10:47 Mark: Show the client the pretty one with some margin for safety
01:13:08 Johan Daniel Aponte Quiñones: That where I get signal from on the neighborhood
01:45:01 Hiten J. Thakkar: Be prepare to butt heads with the contractor will not follow the recommendation of your predictive design and will change the installation points without informing and especially when they install AP next to the Fire Sprinklers. This always happens when a University does a capital project same issues different contractors.
01:45:56 Hiten J. Thakkar: Never do stack, go with honeycomb that way you can take advantage of co-channel sharing
02:05:57 Alain: Wi-Fi Client Testing

364a Sesión de Tesos en Wi-Fi: WLANPros Wi-Fi Design [Hamina Wireless, multiple floors]

364a Sesión de Tesos en Wi-Fi: WLANPros Wi-Fi Design [Hamina Wireless, multiple floors]

The session was part of the free Wireless LAN Professionals Wi-Fi Design Class, focusing on using Hamina for Wi-Fi design. Ferney led the class, ensuring all participants had temporary Hamina licenses and demonstrating how to create and scale projects, import floor plans, and automatically detect walls, doors, and windows. Jerry from Hamina joined to answer questions about floor attenuation, ceiling heights, and modeling slabs and raised floors, clarifying how these settings affect the 3D model. The group learned to create multi-floor buildings, align floor plans, define scope zones, and model special elements like holes in floors, short walls (verandas), drop ceilings, and air ducts using attenuation objects. Ferney also showed how to copy objects between floors, adjust wall heights, and visualize the environment in 3D. The session highlighted Hamina’s visual interface and ease of use compared to other tools, with participants sharing their impressions and experiences.

Chat Notes:

00:41:51 Jono Thompson: Can you disable that altering the celing high? so if you accidentally miss type the the AP hight then its going to mess up the design? – does the override fix it and stop it altering it?
00:42:23 Zaur Nedashkovskiy: So it is worth creating a “binding” even if it is a single-floor setting
00:54:05 gurpreet singh: in ekahau reflections are on by default in the AI Pro online
00:59:48 Glenn De Haes: In ekahau you have to set the accuracy to max to get refraction calculation. Mainly helps in hallways/aisles to see how far the signal goes or to see signal around pillars. In AI Planner Online, it is on by default. In Hamina, it is also on by default since it is also cloud. In iBwave or LANPlanner, you can choose the attenuation calculation models but in the end, the result is mostly the same as in Ekahau and Hamina
01:08:18 simon: if an area, say toilet, you specify as out of scope. will Hamina take into account the out of scope area to calculate the wireless coverage for the next room, e.g. meeting room?
01:10:44 Glenn De Haes: out of scope is out of scope so you don’t foresee coverage in that area. Walls around the out of scope area are taken into account for the coverage in the surrounding areas. It is just not showing coverage in that defined area
01:12:02 Zaur Nedashkovskiy: Black – is going to be the floor you are currently on (under project)
01:12:29 simon: Replying to “out of scope is out of scope so you don’t foresee coverage in that area. Walls around the out of scope area are taken into account for the coverage in the surrounding areas. It is just not showing coverage in that defined area”
01:12:56 gurpreet singh: AIPO is also very same visual where you can see the floor plan below

363a Sesión de Tesos en Wi-Fi: WLANPros Wi-Fi Design [Hamina Wireless]

363a Sesión de Tesos en Wi-Fi: WLANPros Wi-Fi Design [Hamina Wireless]

In this session, we transition from foundational RF theory into hands-on predictive Wi-Fi design. Using Hamina Wireless, we walk through step by step how to set up a professional predictive model from scratch, using real-world event designs as examples (such as a recent venue deployment in Toronto, Canada). Key technical topics covered in this session include: The Project Lifecycle & AI Detection: How choosing the correct building environment type (office, warehouse, convention center) optimizes Hamina’s AI model for automatic wall and obstacle recognition, Setting the Scale & Coordinates: We cover how the software establishes a pixels-per-meter grid and local XY coordinates, Auto-Draw & Custom Wall Creation: Utilizing the auto-draw feature for automatic material placement, editing material loss values, and creating custom materials, 3D Attenuation Objects & Custom Furniture, Advanced Architectural Features: Step-by-step guidance on constructing multi-landing staircases using the Sloped Floor tool, setting lower/upper height markers, drawing landings (Raised Floors), and enabling structural steps, Windows & Openings.

Chat Notes:

01:01:36  simon:  how to change one of dry wall to something else in earlier step?
01:09:53  Sebastián Mozó:  it is important to draw the ceiling too? 
01:13:50  Zaur Nedashkovskiy:  Replying to “it is important to d…” Id say only if you hame some exotic ceiling (dropped) that will be below AP. Some times you may have huddle rooms that have ceiling lower than the  rest of the floor and you mount APs outside higher. What I am trying to say – its situational.
01:14:44  Guillermo Parra:  Does Hamina support creating a reusable database of attenuation objects that can be exported and imported between different user accounts? We would like to share standardized attenuation object libraries across our engineering team and with other designers to ensure consistency between projects.
01:21:47  Guillermo Parra:  Can drawing objects be copied and pasted between different Hamina projects? For example, if we have a standardized floor layout or commonly used annotations, can we reuse those objects in another design without recreating them from scratch?
01:25:31  Zaur Nedashkovskiy:  Columns – you can do X (or Cross) instead of circle, or use attentuation square. @Ferney Muñoz  – can you shine some light on drawing columns (when you skip and when you don’t) with a reference to refraction ?
01:28:10  Zaur Nedashkovskiy:  i.e. do you always draw columns ? Or if there are few/scattered – you don’t because of refraction ?
01:28:41  Zaur Nedashkovskiy:  Top right corner – “Compute FRT”
01:30:22  Sebastián Mozó:  Replying to “it is important to d…” I believe that just as walls affect reflections and refraction, the ceiling also contributes, even more so if it is a metal one.
01:34:36  Ned Neece:  Replying to “it is important to d…” In modern office spaces you see a lot of open ceilings with pipes, metal, HVAC etc.  Def affects.
01:39:05  Zaur Nedashkovskiy:  Replying to “Screenshot2026_08_03_093056.jpg” BTW – Dynamic attenuation per frequency is checked on all default materials.

361a Sesión de Tesos en Wi-Fi: WLANPros Wi-Fi Design [Life Cicle of a Wi-Fi Project]

361a Sesión de Tesos en Wi-Fi: WLANPros Wi-Fi Design [Life Cicle of a Wi-Fi Project]

This was session 361, part of the Wireless LAN Professional Wi-Fi Design Class, where Ferney covered the complete lifecycle of a Wi-Fi project. The session focused extensively on the definition phase, explaining that proper project definition goes far beyond simply installing Wi-Fi everywhere – it requires understanding client requirements, device types and capabilities, cabling infrastructure, budget constraints, vendor selection, power requirements, and physical mounting considerations. Ferney emphasized that Wi-Fi professionals should be involved in all stages of the project lifecycle rather than just being called in for post-deployment surveys when problems arise. The discussion included detailed explanations of design tools like Ekahau, Hamina, and Wavelify, and the importance of pre-deployment validation using “AP on a stick” testing to ensure designs work in real-world conditions. Ferney also clarified the difference between design (predictive simulation) and survey (on-site measurement), and addressed common pitfalls like the “one AP per classroom” approach that often leads to inadequate coverage.

360a Sesión de Tesos en Wi-Fi: WLANPros Wi-Fi Design [The Fallacy of Channel Overlap]

360a Sesión de Tesos en Wi-Fi: WLANPros Wi-Fi Design [The Fallacy of Channel Overlap]

The session focused on the concept of cell overlap in Wi-Fi network design, specifically addressing the fallacy of quantifying cell overlap as a percentage. Ferney explained that the idea of requiring a certain percentage of cell overlap, such as 30%, is not measurable or practical due to the irregular shapes of real-world Wi-Fi coverage areas. He demonstrated using design tools like Ekahau and Hamina to show how secondary coverage, which provides multiple signals for redundancy and roaming, is achieved by adding more access points rather than targeting a specific overlap percentage. The discussion highlighted the need to educate customers and peers to remove such unverifiable requirements from RFPs and contracts. The session also briefly touched on the life cycle of a project, which was postponed for a future discussion.

Chat Notes:

01:22:52 gurpreet singh: https://wlanprofessionals.com/the-fallacy-of-channel-overlap/

359a Sesión de Tesos en Wi-Fi: WLANPros Wi-Fi Design [Wi-Fi Interference]

359a Sesión de Tesos en Wi-Fi: WLANPros Wi-Fi Design [Wi-Fi Interference]

This was session 359 of Ferney’s free Wi-Fi design class, focusing on Wi-Fi interference terminology and concepts. Ferney explained key Wi-Fi terms including Basic Service Set (BSS), Basic Service Set Identifier (BSSID), Service Set Identifier (SSID), and Extended Service Set (ESS), demonstrating how different access points announce the same SSID using different BSSIDs. The session covered various types of Wi-Fi interference such as Co-Channel Interference (CCI), Adjacent Channel Interference, and Overlapping Basic Service Sets (OBSS), along with protection mechanisms like RTS/CTS. Ferney discussed how most Wi-Fi interference comes from other Wi-Fi networks rather than external sources, and showed examples using Wi-Fi Explorer Pro to analyze interference patterns in real networks. The class included participants from around the world including Australia, France, Sweden, Italy, Chile, Canada, and the United States, with Ferney emphasizing that all session recordings would be made available for free to help train Wi-Fi professionals worldwide.

Chat Notes:

01:29:43 simon: the channel utilization is the value of 2 AP assuming they are on the same channel or just the individual ap?

01:33:28 Hando: We need to add the gain of the antenna to the Tx power.

01:40:20 Ned Neece: If it’s an internal antenna AP, the vendor knows the gain.

01:41:47 Hando: Sure, but only the tx power is advertised, not the EIRP.

01:43:21 gurpreet singh: different vendors do it different as well, Per change conducted vs Total conducted Power.

358a Sesión de Tesos en Wi-Fi: WLANPros Wi-Fi Design [Association Process]

358a Sesión de Tesos en Wi-Fi: WLANPros Wi-Fi Design [Association Process]

This was Session 358 of Ferney’s free Wireless LAN Professionals Wi-Fi Design class, focused on the association process in Wi-Fi networks. Ferney explained how devices discover Wi-Fi networks through passive scanning (beacons sent 10 times per second, per radio, per SSID) and active scanning (probe requests sent by clients and probe responses sent by APs), emphasizing that too many networks increase airtime utilization and overhead. The class covered the complete association process from WLAN discovery through open system authentication, association request/response frames, and finally IP address acquisition via DHCP, with Ferney demonstrating real packet captures using Wireshark to show the entire process taking 1.9 seconds. Ferney stressed the importance of keeping the number of SSIDs low to reduce beacon overhead and discussed different authentication methods including PSK and 802.1X, noting that PSK is less secure due to its vulnerability to brute force attacks when passwords are shared among multiple users.

Chat Notes:

Professionals Wi-Fi Design class Form

356a Sesión de Tesos en Wi-Fi: WLANPros Wi-Fi Design [Chanels, DFS, AFC, CCC, CCI, ACI, OBSS]

356a Sesión de Tesos en Wi-Fi: WLANPros Wi-Fi Design [Chanels, DFS, AFC, CCC, CCI, ACI, OBSS]

Hello, good morning, afternoon, or evening to everyone around the world! Welcome to Session 356 of Tesos en Wi-Fi, part of the free Wireless LAN Professionals Wi-Fi Design Class. Today, on Saturday, July 25th, I decided to celebrate my birthday doing what I love most: sharing Wi-Fi knowledge with all of you 100% free!. The Frame Types Burden: Why most airtime isn’t actually carrying data, but small management and control frames. OFDM Subcarriers & Channel Bonding: How 20 MHz channels divide into 64 subcarriers, and the price we pay in spectrum congestion when bonding into 40, 80, or 160 MHz wide channels. Interference Realities: The technical differences between Co-Channel Interference (CCI), Adjacent Channel Interference (ACI), and Overlapping Basic Service Sets (OBSS). DFS & AFC Rules: How Dynamic Frequency Selection protects radar systems, and how Automatic Frequency Coordination manages standard-power 6 GHz APs. Wi-Fi 6 OFDMA Mechanics: How Resource Units allow up to 9 client devices to transmit simultaneously, shifting Wi-Fi from single-device contention to efficient spectrum scheduling.

Chat Notes:

00:35:46 Martin Ericson: No, DFS was not required or used in the original U-NII-2A allocation. [1, 2]
When the FCC originally created the U-NII bands in 1997, the 5.250–5.350 GHz band did not mandate DFS. Instead, Wi-Fi devices operating in this band were restricted to a lower maximum power output of 250 mW to avoid interfering with nearby radar. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
00:36:09 Ferney Muñoz: Youtube video clic here. Channel Switch Announcements | Ferney Muñoz | WLPC Prague 2023
00:36:22 Martin Ericson: The requirement for DFS came later through regulatory updates to prevent interference with military, weather, and airport radar systems: [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
The 2003 Overhaul: Following the FCC 03-287 Report and Order, the FCC harmonized rules with international standards. This update introduced the U-NII-2C (Extended) band and formally mandated DFS for both U-NII-2A and U-NII-2C. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5].
00:39:10 Ferney Muñoz: Youtube video clic here. DFS – The Untold Story | David Coleman | WLPC Phoenix 2020
00:45:35 Ferney Muñoz: Youtube video clic here. Throughput Testing and Active Survey Analysis | Ferney Muñoz | WLPC Phoenix 2026
01:21:28 Ferney Muñoz: Youtube video clic here. Preferred Scanning Channels | Ferney Muñoz | WLPC Prague 2024
01:35:51 Martin Ericson: Wi-Fi Fine Timing Measurement (FTM) is a protocol defined in the IEEE 802.11-2016 standard that measures the physical distance between wireless devices by calculating signal travel time. Key aspects include sub-meter accuracy, round-trip time calculation, and independence from standard router connections. [1, 2, 3, 4]

345a Sesión de Tesos en Wi-Fi: WLANPros en Wi-Fi Design [dB Math]

345a Sesión de Tesos en Wi-Fi: WLANPros en Wi-Fi Design [dB Math]

In this session of the Wireless LAN Professionals Wi-Fi Design Class 345a, we explore the foundational physics and practical applications of RF power measurements, focusing on dB Math and Free Space Path Loss. We strip away complex logarithmic formulas to introduce simple mental shortcuts that every wireless engineer must master for field calculations and certification exams. The Rules of Tens and Threes, the Inverse Square Law & Guacamole Analogy: We discuss how RF waves naturally dissipate over free space. We also analyze a real-world multi-device case study from a past WLPC Berlin presentation highlighting how easily RSSI fluctuates based on device orientation or user hand positioning. Why We Design in dBm Instead of Milliwatts: We visualize why enterprise Wi-Fi is mapped in dBm rather than raw power.

Session Highlights:

00:03:38 – The history of the Bel and measuring telephone wire power loss.
00:08:23 – Core formulas of the Tens and Threes translation trick.
00:14:27 – Link budget practice: Converting 27 dBm backward to milliwatts.
00:18:43 – Advanced practice: Deconstructing 14 dBm into divisional halves.
00:21:34 – Forward math: Moving from a linear 100 mW baseline up to 20 dBm.
00:26:49 – Understanding the Inverse Square Law over free space.
00:29:22 – The Guacamole Analogy: Visualizing wave propagation and dissipation.
00:32:15 – Why doubling the distance mathematically equals a 6 dB power drop.
00:38:30 – Calculating attenuation margins using the 6 dB doubling rule.
00:43:35 – Historical WLPC Berlin data: Deconstructing RSSI variance and measurement stability.
01:00:40 – Logarithmic breakdown: Mapping -10 dBm to -70 dBm increments in watts.
01:05:52 – Client roaming standards: Why Wi-Fi target metrics are structured around -67 dBm.
01:10:00 – CWNA Board Exam style review: Calculating full EIRP string budgets.
01:20:00 – Regulatory boundaries: Managing high-gain antenna chains to avoid regulatory violations.

344a Sesión de Tesos en Wi-Fi: WLANPros Wi-Fi Design [Modulations]

344a Sesión de Tesos en Wi-Fi: WLANPros Wi-Fi Design [Modulations]

In this session of the Wireless LAN Professionals Wi-Fi Design Class 344a, we delve into the technical core of wireless data transmission: Modulation and Coding Schemes and MIMO Multiple Input Multiple Output engineering. We break down the complex variables that determine real-world data rates and explore how modern Wi-Fi devices negotiate speeds based on environmental conditions. We analyze the efficiency vs. redundancy trade-offs between the classic baseline coding rates: 1/2, 2/3, 3/4, and 5/6. We explain how a 1/2 coding rate delivers high redundancy sending 2 bits to net 1, while a 5/6 coding rate prioritizes maximum data efficiency sending 6 bits to net 5. Spatial Streams & MIMO Deep Dive: Using practical, everyday analogies, we clarify how spatial streams function as separate physical data flows. We dissect standard data sheet notations (e.g., 4×4:4), mapping out how the first digit represents transmit chains, the second represents receive chains, and the final digit represents active spatial streams. Access Point vs. Client Discrepancies: We explore the design benefits of deploying high-order 4×4:4 APs even when enterprise clients are mostly 2×2:2 or low-power 1×1:1 devices.

Chat Notes:

00:11:43 Boris Lytochkin: https://www.wi-fi.org
00:19:06 Boris Lytochkin: https://www.ieee.org
01:16:47 Hando Guibert: https://mcsindex.net

Session Highlights:

01:11:37 – Understanding historical baseline speeds and the four core coding ratios.
01:13:25 – Spatial stream conceptual overview: Single Input Single Output (SISO).
01:15:42 – 802.11n innovations: Short Guard Interval (GI) and channel bonding.
01:17:00 – MIMO evolution: Visualizing multiple spatial streams and radio chain matrix syntax.
01:21:00 – Design value: Why 4×4 AP chains help 2×2 and 1×1 clients via MRC.
01:24:03 – MU-MIMO deep dive: Architectural limitations and environmental requirements.
01:28:24 – Decoding the legacy baseline speeds of 802.11a/g OFDM.
01:31:06 – Navigating the MCS Index table to map hardware variables to data rates.
01:35:13 – Live lookup: Accessing active connection metadata on macOS.
01:39:46 – Real-world case study: Troubleshooting client rate drops to 21.7 Mbps.
01:43:55 – Windows diagnostics: Running netsh wlan parameters to expose spatial stream counts.

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