01:25:22 Mark Zeigler: is there a place to import chairs / desks / furniture for Sidos?
01:41:50 Gjermund Raaen: I tested copy/backup with a building without simulated APs.
Export building and select a random AP
Rename the building with a better name (1.st backup)
Now you have a copy of the bulding and can work further on in case of future messups
01:43:25 Gjermund Raaen: 1 hour 23 minutes to WLPC Prague registration
01:57:04 alex wirz: I liked the AP 3d visualization
01:57:14 Zaur Nedashkovskiy: Btw they need to fix floor height m/ft when you add floors
01:58:03 alex wirz: I agree control v without having to look around is an awesome feature 😀
02:13:23 Larry: i think you need to select an AP for the mini-maps
02:20:14 alex wirz: what s the difference between green and black radiation patterns?
02:20:58 alex wirz: green looks like the -65 signal. so what s black? it has the same shape as the green one but smaller
02:25:44 alex wirz: black is 5ghz and green is 2.4
02:29:31 Mark Zeigler: What’s the scale measurement value? I got Floor 2 set as the wrong size
02:31:07 alex wirz: i think black is the minimum power level

00:15:24 Ferney Muñoz: https://e8cel.share.hsforms.com/2v5ec-gRwSYevc9UynLUkqA
01:31:54 Mark Zeigler: How did you get the channel band graph to display on Sidos?
01:32:08 Glenn De Haes: click on a point on the map if you have an ap in there
01:33:44 Gjermund Raaen: In many menus in Sidos you get the channel map in the buttom when you click somewhere on the map
01:36:26 Ned Neece: According to ChatGPT, India uses channel 32 in some regulatory implementations.
01:38:21 Gjermund Raaen: The channel map look is fantastic in survey mode
01:38:34 Mark Zeigler: Would be nice to say “I’m in Canada setup the channels”
01:50:09 simon: neat…good visualization
01:52:19 Walid Abdelkader: OK.. Hamina Win So far ….:)
01:59:58 Glenn De Haes: FYI: I don’t have the AI detect and there doesn’t seem to be an ‘enabled beta features’
02:02:20 Glenn De Haes: It is shift in Windows instead of CTRL
02:04:43 Glenn De Haes: @simon you can just draw. Ferney has it since he has the AI option
02:06:47 Gjermund Raaen: Almost like the Aircheck G2 Ethernet tester. Fantastic
02:07:48 Mark Zeigler: PoE?
02:09:51 Gjermund Raaen: I used the APoS feature on a Costal Guard wessel some month ago
02:11:34 Mark Zeigler: I did not see the Draw / Detect AI button
02:12:10 Gjermund Raaen: Upvoted quetion “Is it possible to see how long the user account is valid?”
02:13:16 Zaur Nedashkovskiy: @Ferney Muñoz – idea: Pre-build objects for Hamina like chairs, tables, etc.
02:14:35 Guillermo Parra: can Sidos handheld create CSV files?
02:15:27 Mark Zeigler: Is Sidos Wave a one time buy or on-going license?

00:12:03 Ferney Muñoz: https://robinwifi.eu/tools/hamina-objects/
00:12:55 Ferney Muñoz: https://ai-tools.teigenrf.org/
00:20:45 Guillermo Parra: NHL-standard ice hockey rink, the playing surface is: Length: 200 ft (60.96 m) Width: 85 ft (25.91 m) Ice area: 17,000 ft² (≈1,579m²)
00:49:21 Guillermo Parra: The barrier around a hockey rink is generally called the boards or dasher boards.
The transparent section above them is called the protective glass or shielding. So for a drawing or RF design, I would label it:
Hockey Rink Dasher Boards & Protective Glass
00:50:20 Guillermo Parra: ComponentﾠTypical HeightﾠMetric
Dasher boardsﾠ40–48 in (3.3–4 ft)ﾠ1.0–1.2 m
Protective glass – sidesﾠ5–6 ft above boardsﾠ1.5–1.8 m
Protective glass – ends/cornersﾠ6–8 ft above boardsﾠ1.8–2.4 m

00:22:41 Mark Zeigler: Is there a control plane connection so that changing channel on the AP in the Hamina map changes the channel transmitting in the AP?
00:35:30 Gurpreet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0Aa7haw7lU&list=PLXJsNZqZEF9YI_whgRZsCdER90QbKgaWx&index=1
00:36:08 Gurpreet: Roaming Wars: How Different Devices Roam | Jerry Olla | WLPC Phoenix 2025 👆
00:48:46 simon: mixed channel width?
00:58:33 Hiten J. Thakkar: I might be confused on the term, will not RX-SOP come in play/
01:02:26 Gurpreet: It was developed to reduce CCI or CCC and is mainly on how AP hears not the client
01:04:13 Gurpreet: https://packetpushers.net/podcasts/heavy-wireless/hw084-spatial-reuse-in-wi-fi/ – great discussion by Keith and Jake
01:05:04 Ned Neece: RX-SOP, be careful.
01:06:00 Gurpreet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzZVo2PaBxU
01:06:11 Gurpreet: Practicing Safe RX-SOP | Jake Snyder | WLPC Prague 2018 👆
01:19:06 Alexandre Vianna: Its ppssible to use the AP Cisco 9176D1-ROW?
01:28:19 Hiten J. Thakkar: A while ago we had seen a warehouse that had robots moving Storage racks, how would you emulate a floor below with access points/antennas pointing up to the floor above? Thanks
01:28:49 Zaur Nedashkovskiy | Linear Technologies, inc.: I think it would be a great idea IF RF visualization would be in 3D as well
01:38:32 Walid Abdelkader: Antenna downtilt and coverage calculator
01:57:38 Hiten J. Thakkar: Ceiling height is 40 ‘
02:20:11 Hiten J. Thakkar: Ksheitel started as a RF spectrum Manager at a new place in Norway, this week

00:27:03 Martin Ericson: https://docs.hamina.com/hamina/live/openintent
00:27:13 Mark Zeigler: https://podscan.fm/podcasts/heavy-wireless/episodes/hw073-openintent-a-collaborative-effort-for-wi-fi-interoperability-2
00:27:13 alex wirz: https://github.com/google/openintent
00:44:17 Larry: The auto planner and wall detection is super fast on larger projects
00:58:15 Jerry Olla: https://ai-tools.teigenrf.org/
01:04:29 Jerry Olla: http://robinwifi.eu/tools/hamina-objects
01:32:58 Walid Abdelkader: https://docs.hamina.com/hamina/guides/channel-planning
01:46:27 simon: does it flag an alert if an ap distance to the idf/mdf is close to 100m?
01:51:24 Bobby Khaira: Is it possible to add a non PoE switch like a core distribution switch that shows PoE switches connecting to which core distribution switch and its location on the map.
01:54:31 Mark Zeigler: Does Hamina have any options for the viewshed of cameras? IE – church needs cameras that monitor every corner of the building
01:55:26 Larry: It would be nice to see a note when hovering over the red exclamation point
02:24:23 Ferney Muñoz: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdNj9h1_5Q_HtSHtNksIC1OGqrNhWmPcXuEF6Ohi4M_21kCkA/viewform

00:59:58 Hiten J. Thakkar: What exactly the speed test measure? My Wi-Fi is operating at 6E 40 MHz, the wire to the AP is 5 Gbps and switch port is 5 Gbps, uplink is 25 Gbps and the DS link to router is Fifty and to ISP 100Gps. The values of speediest is Laptop to AP correct?
01:00:22 Glenn De Haes: it does as they want both solutions to be as alike as possible. Think it is clear that AI/ML will be more powerful online than local install. So do expect that wall detection etc might work better online but in terms of look and feel and what you generally can do, it should become the same
01:01:13 Glenn De Haes: Speedtest tests to the Internet by sending a lot of data (500MB or so) and measure the peak bandwidth
01:01:27 alex wirz: no. laptop to the cloud if your ap is 40mhz and you re connected on a 10mb link you won t get all of it
01:01:28 Glenn De Haes: laptop to AP requires for instance iperf on the AP like with Arista
01:01:46 alex wirz: also, it will measure from laptop. so you need to check which frequency you re connected
01:02:35 Zaur Nedashkovskiy | Linear Technologies, inc.: Online speed tests like speedtest.net are mostly guessing your speed
01:04:07 Hiten J. Thakkar: 6E channel 197 (80 MHz) is the connection from laptop to the AP.
01:08:46 simon: if you are deploying this site with this design, will you use the channel design as static assignment or let the vendor rrm feature dynamically assign the channel?
01:10:26 Zaur Nedashkovskiy | Linear Technologies, inc.: Replying to “if you are deploying this site with this design, will you use the channel design as static assignment or let the vendor rrm feature dynamically assign the channel?
8/10 you will use RRM
01:10:34 Zaur Nedashkovskiy | Linear Technologies, inc.: Replying to “if you are deploying this site with this design, will you use the channel design as static assignment or let the vendor rrm feature dynamically assign the channel?”
02:07:49 alex wirz: cc screen where we have channel utilization.
that s an example of an interference. ap with 0 clients, but a huge 40min burst of 80% channel utilization
02:07:55 Larry: WLC to Catalyst Center traffic has a 5 minute delay

00:30:15 simon: if floor 2 is 5m and the rest is 2.5m, will the walls that is set for ceiling height, is it 2.5/5 or according to the respective floor?
00:30:28 Hiten J. Thakkar: If I am not mistaken Kjeiel (must have butchered his name – sorry) has created skills for Hamina to add furniture and other stuff. He had a whole blog about it and is active on WLAN Pro SLACK but verify
00:34:48 alex wirz: Easy peasy. the one issue is hamina don t allow me to rotate, so I created 2, 1 for horizontal other for vertical
01:05:12 Mark: in stadiums, on gameday testing, the signal varies based on holding the phone on your lap sitting down or holding it up near your chest or face.
01:06:34 Ned Neece: Another major issue, if stadium is surveyed empty and not surveyed on game day.
01:09:19 Ned Neece: Looks funny! 🙂
01:10:47 Mark: Show the client the pretty one with some margin for safety
01:13:08 Johan Daniel Aponte Quiñones: That where I get signal from on the neighborhood
01:45:01 Hiten J. Thakkar: Be prepare to butt heads with the contractor will not follow the recommendation of your predictive design and will change the installation points without informing and especially when they install AP next to the Fire Sprinklers. This always happens when a University does a capital project same issues different contractors.
01:45:56 Hiten J. Thakkar: Never do stack, go with honeycomb that way you can take advantage of co-channel sharing
02:05:57 Alain: Wi-Fi Client Testing

00:41:51 Jono Thompson: Can you disable that altering the celing high? so if you accidentally miss type the the AP hight then its going to mess up the design? – does the override fix it and stop it altering it?
00:42:23 Zaur Nedashkovskiy: So it is worth creating a “binding” even if it is a single-floor setting
00:54:05 gurpreet singh: in ekahau reflections are on by default in the AI Pro online
00:59:48 Glenn De Haes: In ekahau you have to set the accuracy to max to get refraction calculation. Mainly helps in hallways/aisles to see how far the signal goes or to see signal around pillars. In AI Planner Online, it is on by default. In Hamina, it is also on by default since it is also cloud. In iBwave or LANPlanner, you can choose the attenuation calculation models but in the end, the result is mostly the same as in Ekahau and Hamina
01:08:18 simon: if an area, say toilet, you specify as out of scope. will Hamina take into account the out of scope area to calculate the wireless coverage for the next room, e.g. meeting room?
01:10:44 Glenn De Haes: out of scope is out of scope so you don’t foresee coverage in that area. Walls around the out of scope area are taken into account for the coverage in the surrounding areas. It is just not showing coverage in that defined area
01:12:02 Zaur Nedashkovskiy: Black – is going to be the floor you are currently on (under project)
01:12:29 simon: Replying to “out of scope is out of scope so you don’t foresee coverage in that area. Walls around the out of scope area are taken into account for the coverage in the surrounding areas. It is just not showing coverage in that defined area”
01:12:56 gurpreet singh: AIPO is also very same visual where you can see the floor plan below

01:01:36  simon:  how to change one of dry wall to something else in earlier step?
01:09:53  Sebastián Mozó:  it is important to draw the ceiling too? 
01:13:50  Zaur Nedashkovskiy:  Replying to “it is important to d…” Id say only if you hame some exotic ceiling (dropped) that will be below AP. Some times you may have huddle rooms that have ceiling lower than the  rest of the floor and you mount APs outside higher. What I am trying to say – its situational.
01:14:44  Guillermo Parra:  Does Hamina support creating a reusable database of attenuation objects that can be exported and imported between different user accounts? We would like to share standardized attenuation object libraries across our engineering team and with other designers to ensure consistency between projects.
01:21:47  Guillermo Parra:  Can drawing objects be copied and pasted between different Hamina projects? For example, if we have a standardized floor layout or commonly used annotations, can we reuse those objects in another design without recreating them from scratch?
01:25:31  Zaur Nedashkovskiy:  Columns – you can do X (or Cross) instead of circle, or use attentuation square. @Ferney Muñoz  – can you shine some light on drawing columns (when you skip and when you don’t) with a reference to refraction ?
01:28:10  Zaur Nedashkovskiy:  i.e. do you always draw columns ? Or if there are few/scattered – you don’t because of refraction ?
01:28:41  Zaur Nedashkovskiy:  Top right corner – “Compute FRT”
01:30:22  Sebastián Mozó:  Replying to “it is important to d…” I believe that just as walls affect reflections and refraction, the ceiling also contributes, even more so if it is a metal one.
01:34:36  Ned Neece:  Replying to “it is important to d…” In modern office spaces you see a lot of open ceilings with pipes, metal, HVAC etc.  Def affects.
01:39:05  Zaur Nedashkovskiy:  Replying to “Screenshot2026_08_03_093056.jpg” BTW – Dynamic attenuation per frequency is checked on all default materials.